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Sep. 12th, 2010 | 03:37 pm

CHAT ANONYMOUSLY ABOUT STUFF: General Anon Meme


It is what all the cool memes are doing nowadays!

The only rule is, don't be a total passive-aggressive douche. This isn't the place to spew all your vitriolic unrequited blackrom feelings for other members of of our dear fandom--or if you can't resist, at least don't mention them by name, that shit is just a little too petty. If it gets out of hand I'll ban you so fast Karkat would be impressed.

Other than that, hop to it, anons. And TITLE YOUR THREADS it could get pretty confusing all up in here if you didn't!



PS, as one kind anon pointed out, if you want to see the comments in chronological order instead of thread format, put ?view=flat after html in the URL. Or click here, whatever.
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Haha, cool! :D

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 12th, 2010 08:53 pm (UTC)
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So....
What's your favorite/least favorite character, and why?

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Re: Haha, cool! :D

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 12th, 2010 09:24 pm (UTC)
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My favorite character is Gamzee. I can't really describe what it is about him that I love so much. Maybe it's his completely chill demeanor and how he's always trying to help his friends or make them smile.
And my least favorite character is Vriska. I don't outright HATE her the way I love Gamzee, but she is certainly unlikable. I don't really think I need to explain why.

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Stuff you'd never say

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 12th, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC)
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What kind of stuff do you think, but you'd never post under your name because of dogpiling/whining/dramadramadrama? F!S without the pictures I guess (unless you wanna).

Me, I kinda judge people who think Slick/Jackspers/The Midnight Crew are awesome but hate BQ and Vriska for being bitches.

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Re: Stuff you'd never say

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 12:23 am (UTC)
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I really really hate fan trolls. it doesn't matter how well or how shitty they're drawn, I just hate every last one of them and wish people would stop posting them.

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 12th, 2010 11:51 pm (UTC)
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I LOVE HOMESTUCK FANDOM AND EVERYONE IN IT


that is all

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 12th, 2010 11:52 pm (UTC)
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<3

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OTP THREAD

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date: Sep. 13th, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)
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Post your favorite pairings here! (Optional: say why!)

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Re: OTP THREAD

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 12:32 am (UTC)
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Snowman/Slick.

...I don't know! I really like Slick and absolutely love Snowman and they've got the most passionate relationship in the less used sense of the word. But I kind of ship them being happy as well as being ragey so IDEK. I like them so I guess I don't want them to be unhappy.

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 01:25 am (UTC)
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EXILES ARE THE BEST Y/Y/Y

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YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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date: Sep. 13th, 2010 01:27 am (UTC)
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Carapaces, Kids, or Trolls?

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 01:32 am (UTC)
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Who's your favorite group?

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 01:57 am (UTC)
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pound for pound? probably the carapaces. my very very favourites all seem to be dersites or prospitians, even though i like all the others just fine. there's just really something charming about all of them! the kid's exiles are my favourites of their session, and the troll's exiles are amoung my favourites of theirs. so it comes down to loving the exoskeletons, i guess.

APPARENTLY obvious anon is obvious, but i'm okay with that.

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 02:10 am (UTC)
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There's someone who fills requests on the porn meme and I know EXACTLY who they are every time I post.

But I don't want to out them

So I will just say that your writings are my favorite things ever and never ever ever stop

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 02:19 am (UTC)
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I recognize someone too. And yeah, they're absolutely fucking amazing.

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 02:49 am (UTC)
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Anyone have any cool MSPA wallpapers to share?

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 02:56 am (UTC)
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will i be horribly judged if i don't know the original artists and post them from a personal photobucket account? any time i try to register for a tinypic account i get obviousphishingpage.jpg and i'm too damn lazy to do them one by one.

i have quite a few. :'|

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Title your threads guys!

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 02:51 am (UTC)
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It makes it easier to follow this whole thing.

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fan art thread needs love

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 03:30 am (UTC)
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I wish more people would comment on the art in the fan art thread.

There's some good stuff in their that could use a little more attention.

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Re: fan art thread needs love

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 04:04 am (UTC)
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I feel bad, I've only commented a tiny handful of times.

It just moves so quick and I feel like I'd be spamming because I don't draw so my posts have no content...

We need a central Homestuck art archive.

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Recs Thread!

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 04:06 am (UTC)
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Rec fanart/fanfic/whatever.

What do you like?

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Re: Recs Thread!

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 04:51 am (UTC)
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Tea and Consequences: http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?25841-MSPA-fan-fiction&p=3684175&viewfull=1#post3684175

It is my favorite Homestuck fanfiction.

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Feferi/Sollux

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 03:36 pm (UTC)
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I really hope they get a pesterlog together

and it will be adorable

I hope that a pesterlog between them would bring more shippers because I love the premise of the self loathing guy with the chirpy airheaded girl too cute

(though I still feel sorry for Eridan bah)

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Re: Feferi/Sollux

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 04:16 pm (UTC)
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I agree about Feferi and Sollux. They're a cute couple.

But I don't know about Eridan.

I don't really feel sorry for him. Did you see Feferi's happy "I'm Free" face after she broke up with him? Clearly he just wasn't right for her, and I'm glad she got out of the relationship. It can be torture staying with someone just because they need you.

But at the same time I do like Eridan a lot, and I hope he can deal with the break up and find someone who is right for him.

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FAVORITE HOMESTUCK CROSSOVERS

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 04:24 pm (UTC)
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What crossovers do you like, or want to see?

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Re: FAVORITE HOMESTUCK CROSSOVERS

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
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I still love Trollventure Time

In case you don't know about it:
Tavros- Finn
Gamzee- Jake
Feferi- Princess Bubblegum
Vriska- Marceline
Eridan- The Ice King

Have we decided who LSP and Lady Rainicorn are yet?

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The Equius and Vriska thread!

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 04:49 pm (UTC)
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(Full disclosure: I like them both but I like Vriska more than Equius.)

So I think calling what either of them did rape is overstating things.

But I think what *Equius* did was worse.

Vriska seemed really horrible to Tavros, but from what we know now about troll romance and the fact she apparently had a crush on him the whole time it seems less like her being AN IRREDEEMABLE BITCH WHORE and more like it was flirting.

Really fucked up flirting but the trolls have an entire type of relationship based on mutual hate so they're all really fucked up.

Here's how I see it: Vriska has a crush on Tavros. And she's pretty good at hurting people, so she goes for blackrom because she figures people hate her a lot and she can do it.

And then he doesn't hate her. And she keeps trying to get him to hate her and nothing works! All her friends hate her over just crippling him, but he's the one she crippled and he just won't hate her! She makes fun of his interests and his lusus and puts stairs everywhere and WHY WON'T HE HATE HER SHE'S DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT. People hate her all the time! She has so many people competing to hate her! She is a prime hate-catch! Why won't he realize this? She mocks him for being crippled! She tells him to apologize, to her, for being crippled and still nothing!

So finally she figures that if that doesn't work then fine, it doesn't matter what kind, if he can't feel hate she'll go for red. She can do this. He likes flarping, she likes flarping, she knows he really loves Pupa Pan, she'll start being nice and then kiss him and they'll be matesprits!

And then that doesn't work and she reacts the same way she always does, by lashing out with mind control.

But she doesn't take advantage of him once she's controlling him, she lets him go almost immediately and goes off to sit by herself and be sad over it. It doesn't seem like a serious attempt to force him into a relationship. And it seems she stops abusing Tavros after that and is nice-ish to him.

TL;DR: All her abuse of Tavros seems like (really badly thought out) blackrom flirting attempts rather than cruelty for the sake of it, and once she gives up on getting him to like/hate her she stops.

Equius, now... What he did to Aradia was far less traumatic than what Tavros went through, but he doesn't have the excuse of not thinking it through.

He very meticulously planned it out, down to replacing her blood so she'd be a suitable mate. (I am not making the obvious racial comparison here.) Now he's six solar sweeps old and I'm sure he was thinking true love rather than roofies. But her saying no doesn't seem to have been on the table and we don't know what he'd have done if she rejected him. (For all we know she did reject him once already, and that's why he went to the lengths he did.)

He does seem to have been trying to make friends with her normally a bit before that, but he definitely never made an attempt like Vriska's to get her to legitimately like him... either he didn't know how to go about it OR he figured she didn't like him and nothing but the chip would change that.

TL;DR: Equius seems to care more about a romance with Aradia than Aradia herself and he had plenty of time to think about what he was doing, but did it anyway. He probably didn't have especially bad intentions but it's still pretty messed up. What he did was overall less of a big deal than Vriska, but he also had less of an excuse for it.

So what's your interpretation? (And which of them do you like better as a character?)

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Re: The Equius and Vriska thread!

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 07:34 pm (UTC)
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I agree with all your points on Vriska (Though her claims of getting over it are dubious to me). However...

"But her saying no doesn't seem to have been on the table and we don't know what he'd have done if she rejected him."

"EQUIUS: D --> I
EQUIUS: D --> Yes
EQUIUS: D --> Uh
EQUIUS: D --> It's a chip in your heart
EQUIUS: D --> Is that not ok
ARADIABOT: get it 0ut
EQUIUS: D --> Urrk
EQUIUS: D --> I guess I can
EQUIUS: D --> Uninstall it if you would just
ARADIABOT: GET IT 0UT!!!
EQUIUS: D --> Sorry
EQUIUS: D --> I'll
EQUIUS: D --> Hrrrrrrk"

Equius did seem to have some sort of uninstallation plan, but obviously could not carry it out due to robot shenanigans.

But on the subject of his obsession over her blood, I'm sort of torn.

"Could you imagine the scandal if anyone found out?? No one must ever know."
"You can be taught the ways of the class you were always meant for. No one is beyond redemption."
From here it seems to be more about how he feels he can't actually pursue a relationship until her blood is "correct". This obviously Equius being Equius, but it also seems to show he had a thing for her in the first place. (Though I don't think he was ever rejected- He seems to be too worried about scandal!!!!)
But then
"For one like you to entertain thoughts of attraction for such genetic filth would be utter depravity. Exquisite, delectable depravity." This seems more of a paraphilia now. But I suppose it's possible for a relationship to be founded on both things.
But I also found this:
"neither he 0r i sh0uld have ever had anything t0 d0 with th0se hateful sn0bs" So it's strange for Aradia to bring up Equius (presumably) when she's mad at Vriska unless he did something. Of course, they are the example for an unstable matespirit/kismesis relationship so who knows what their relationship pre death is?
tl;dr: Equius is weird but unless we find out their relationship prior Aradia's death I find it hard to rule whether Equius actually cares about Aradia or just the whole depravity thing.

PS, I think they're both great characters so let's just say they're on equal ground.

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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 13th, 2010 08:38 pm (UTC)
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I like the trolls. Seriously, they've been my favorite part of the comic.
And I enjoy some of the troll artwork I've seen.

Perhaps I should feel bad. The other parts of the comic deserve love too.

Also- Equis is entertaining, like a parody of several jerks I know.

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What gender are you?

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 14th, 2010 02:28 am (UTC)
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I'd like to know how things shake out on average in the fandom, or at least the tiny drop of fandom that's ended up hanging out here.

I'll start: female. You?

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Re: What gender are you?

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 14th, 2010 02:37 am (UTC)
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I'll admit it - I'm a chick.

I'd be willing to bet that most LJ frequenters are chicks, so you probably won't get the best sample here.

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Base breakers

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date: Sep. 14th, 2010 03:45 pm (UTC)
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There's a lot of talk on this meme about Vriska and Equius. People are really divided about them, especially Vriska. I haven't been in this fandom for a super long time, but it seems like the only other times people have debated so fiercely was back when people used to hate Jade and a little debate about whether Terezi should be punished for murdering John (or if she'd even done it in the first place). I don't want another thread to debate "who's raping who" or whatever. I just want to get some meta. Has the fandom ever had such an intense, long-term schism before? What about these characters is so divisive? What do you think about their narrative purpose and Andrew's motivation for creating them?

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Re: Base breakers

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 14th, 2010 04:24 pm (UTC)
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Eh, I wouldn't call them base breakers as such.

I think it's just people's readiness to accept (hammy) evil. I don't think anyone claims Vriska and Equius are particularly nice, and I think that's why people love them.

Vriska is more of a pantomime villian who goes about cackling. It depends whether you find this character hilarious or just a total BLUH BLUH HUGE BITCH.

Equius is less divisive, mostly because he's not really villianous. He's just creepy anyway you look at it, and once again it depends on whether you find this funny or not.

tbh, I expected Eridan to be much more of a base breaker than he has been. Feferi a bit too, since I was expecting people to see the word "princess" and immediately slap on the annoying label.

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Fake Midnight Crew Anime

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date: Sep. 14th, 2010 05:02 pm (UTC)
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I thought it was so awesome when I first encountered it, and it seemed like the people involved had this whole storyline planned in their heads for all the pictures....and now it doesn't seem like it'll ever be updated again.

I really want those episode scripts...

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Re: Fake Midnight Crew Anime

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 14th, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC)
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Once I find a voice actor/monologue for Snorumano I'm making a short false animated scene

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shit lets be armchair biologists

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 14th, 2010 06:03 pm (UTC)
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It just occurred to me that this is probably a really good setup for TROLL BIOLOGY DISCUSSION and also that I can't possibly be the only one going crosseyed over it.

I'll post some things I have thought of later (it is all bluh bluh biochemistry junk) but yeah. Why is their blood funny colours? Why do they CRY funny colours? What's their skin like and why's it opaque? How does the Mother Grub thing work? What the fuck is a bone bulge??

I LEAVE TO YOU ANONS, GO FORTH AND BE NERDS.

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Re: shit lets be armchair biologists

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 14th, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
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There is a headcanon I like to believe

I think that their blood/horn/facial feature type is determined by the lusus that chooses them. Sure, they have some characteristics after their trials, but I think that they have blank slate blood, like Karkat

Karkat isn't a mutant, he's a default troll. That's why his horns are just nubs, because he hasn't acclimated to crabdad like most other trolls do with their lusus, which is also why we see so many similarities in their body types (see: Nepeta and Pounce de Leon, Vriska and Spidermom, Tavros and Tinkerbull) and horns.

Why do I think this?

Aurthour chose Equius because he could handle his strength. which means that he wasn't assigned a child from blood type, because its way too high of a coincidence that they happened to have the same blood.

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Easy way to see new comments

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date: Sep. 14th, 2010 10:04 pm (UTC)
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Put ?view=flat after html and they'll be shown in chronological order rather than threaded.

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BLUH BLUH HUGE BITCH

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 12:09 am (UTC)
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It's a phrase in the comic and if you can work it into whatever you're talking about you have typed the same phrase as our god-king Hussie.

But it needs to be taken out back and shot.

Every time a female character does something bad or just aggressive, it gets reduced to HUGE BITCH (LOL). Even if the thing wasn't a big deal, it has to be talked about like it was because otherwise we couldn't work the phrase in.

HEY GUYS, SNOWMAN ACTUALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BITCHY OR EVEN BAD. SHE STABBED A PSYCHOPATH WHO JUST MURDERED SEVERAL PEOPLE A FEW PAGES BACK. THE SAME PSYCHOPATH WHO COINED THE PHRASE. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

But it's so ~funny~ and now half of formspring is devoted to how LOL she's such a huge bitch BLUH BLUH everyone hates and fears her but they like her tits! Get it? Because she's a horrible violent shrew but she's really fucking hot! Thanks fandom! Hey, maybe she could also have constant mood swings because women are psychotic and irrational oh good I see you're already on it.

I know some people want to reclaim it but you can't. When you say "Wow she's a bitch!" and mean she's awesome, what they hear is "How dare she, she needs to be put in her place." And when other people use it and you agree, that is what you're agreeing with. Don't look surprised when it ends up with a flashing BITCH WHORE on a picture of a thirteen year old.

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Re: BLUH BLUH HUGE BITCH

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 12:58 am (UTC)
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Meh, it's the same old fan misogyny like you get in every single fandom that ever fanned. Doesn't even faze me anymore, really.

(captcha says "matador dryad-like". Tavros? Is that you?)

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How do you pronounce troll names?

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 02:41 am (UTC)
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uh-RAY-dee-uh / TAV-ros / SOLL-luks / CAR-cat / neh-PATE-uh / ka-NYE-uh / tuh-RAY-zee / VRISS-kuh / ECK-wi-us / GAM-zee / AYR-i-denn / fuh-FAIR-ee

You?

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Re: How do you pronounce troll names?

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
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Pretty much the same as you. Differences: Nepeta is neh-peh-ta, Terezi is teh-reh-zee, Vriska definitely ends with an ah and not an uh, and Eridan is erry-denn.

I flop flop between your pronounciation of Kanaya and kanna-ya, even though that one sounds kind of clunky to me for whatever reason.

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assorted resources

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 05:55 am (UTC)
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anybody know where to find good betas for Homestuck?

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Re: assorted resources

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 01:10 pm (UTC)
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I'd offer but I'm a sucky beta.

You should ask in the fanfic thread since that's where anyone interested would hang out.

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What don't you like about the fandom?

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 03:38 pm (UTC)
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That's WHAT not WHO. Anon LIKES this meme and doesn't want it exploding.

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Re: What don't you like about the fandom?

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 03:40 pm (UTC)
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How rabid we are. It's good to be enthusiastic, guys, but when it turns into the only thing we talk about, even outside of designated fandom places, it pisses people off. I don't like pissing people off. :(

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Vriska/Kanaya

from: anonymous
date: Sep. 15th, 2010 07:18 pm (UTC)
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I'm in the minority but I don't want them to end up together, even though that'll mean Kanaya will probably be left unpaired. I love Vriska but Kan deserves so much better than her. :(

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Re: Vriska/Kanaya

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date: Sep. 15th, 2010 07:44 pm (UTC)
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Agreed. I'm still hoping Kanaya will get with Rose.

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